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Did you know... this... about Tiny Town (& Face Off)?

Posted: 08 Sep 2024, 17:24
by valps
Tiny Town is (much likely) inspired by a specific place in Funabashi, in Downtown District:
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Re: Did you know... this... about Tiny Town?

Posted: 10 Sep 2024, 05:30
by JernejL
well, not something i ever thought about, but yeah this looks like copy paste. so it seems like they didn't design all multiplayer levels from scratch.

Re: Did you know... this... about Tiny Town (and Face Off)?

Posted: 27 Sep 2024, 03:41
by valps
The same for Face Off as well...
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Re: Did you know... this... about Tiny Town (& Face Off)?

Posted: 03 Oct 2024, 20:15
by BenMillard
I thought everyone knew the original multiplayer maps were sliced out of Downtown?

Hidden Surprise is the North-East corner of Downtown.

It's possible they were separated quite early in development? The GTA2 multiplayer levels have simpler geometry and texture usage than final Downtown. You can see how much more was possible in the texture set and map editor features in the end. (I tried to push this further in my Tiny Arena variants.)

It reminds me of how simple the (seemingly unfinished) Manchester multiplayer is in GTA: London compared to the main London main. And how simple London is when compared to GTA1 Vice City's texturing and railway, San Andreas's hills or Liberty City's river edges and bridge structures.

Re: Did you know... this... about Tiny Town (& Face Off)?

Posted: 26 Oct 2024, 05:39
by kasti77
yeah i think so too. looks almost same as funabashi but its still impresive :-)

Re: Did you know... this... about Tiny Town (& Face Off)?

Posted: 27 Nov 2024, 21:08
by valps
If you open the multiplayer maps in DMA map editor on PSX compression (CMAP 16-bits), you will see the maps at some point of the development. Looking at the tiles that were used, I guess the devs who made the multiplayer maps initially didn't know how to use the tiles, since there are some weird placements such as using roof tiles on pavement etc. I'm considering restore them.

Tiny Town had a little depression, a bump and two blind roads, which were connected in the release version.
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Hidden Surprise was bigger, the south of the map was totally reworked.
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Face Off was even more bigger.
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Re: Did you know... this... about Tiny Town (& Face Off)?

Posted: 08 Dec 2024, 00:23
by Vike the Hube
I think I had a feeling they were, but had forgotten :) Well done, though. Good thing to document all these little foibles.