Pistol & Shotgun Redesign

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Re: Pistol & Shotgun Redesign

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There's example code for most of those powerup ideas, I think the car punch is the only one that I'm not sure how to do in GTA2 script.
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Re: Pistol & Shotgun Redesign

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Where can I find some of those examples? Some of the headier code can be difficult to find here on these forums, & this seems to be the only real community dedicated to GTA2 modding.

So are you saying you can actually script a punch that "throws" peds? That would be awesome if so.
& for the car punch- I'm not sure how exactly the standard punch works in engine, if it's actually based off positioning or what. But I imagine if you could temporarily "take away" standard punching & substitute it with a "punch" that is effectively a very short range invisible projectile, that uses the punching/throwing animation, you could create something that could affect both peds & cars, due to actually being projectile/ damage/ effects based, than whatever the default code is. But I'm not sure if you guys have even figured out yet how to do new projectiles or damage types, so that may not be viable yet if ever.

It'd be cool if the default punching could be reworked to have a reload time, like the rate of the pistol. As it exists in game as soon as someone starts punching you they can kill you almost instantly. I imagine in theory this may be due to the punch inflicting damage when the player/ a ped is in X location in front of the one punching, making the damage inflicted continuous, rather than based off of timed intervals. If punching could be reworked to incorporate the invisible close range projectile premise I described with a reload time, that'd be pretty cool.

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Devastator wrote:Where can I find some of those examples? Some of the headier code can be difficult to find here on these forums, & this seems to be the only real community dedicated to GTA2 modding.
a lot of the stuff should be in this thread http://gtamp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=700
Devastator wrote:So are you saying you can actually script a punch that "throws" peds?
i made an explode punch in tyfo army lite but if you manually code the movement of the ped this should be possible too
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How did you make the train blue in Tyfo Army? Do you know of any palette swapping software?

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unfortunatel i dont remember. i have probably just used color swap in gimp or photoshop and then importet a new palette for each sprite. trains are not supported by the remap command only regular cars and chars. to make one of those support palette swapping it has to be drawn with one of the original palettes or it has to be recalculated for one the original palettes which often looks ugly. gimp is the best tool for this because it can convet images to a palette and generate optimized palettes of arbitrary size and they can be manually edited
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Wait, you know how character remaps cutoff after or around 52? Could one import pallettes to say make an orange or black cop? All cop graphics after 4 are green vested.

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if those correspond to actual physical palettes then i think there is no reason why not. if cops use the yellow and blue swat sprites then the physical palette should be 40. try to modify the ones left and right from it. if it has something to do with virtual palettes or hardcoding then i dont know how to do it with stytool. maybe TM knows more.
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I'm reuploading the Redesigns with the Tracer rounds for Bullet weapons. I find they're both more visually appealing, with the added bonus they increase readability of enemy fire (like from Cops) when you're in your car. & they somehow make Bullet weapons just feel more fun in my opinion, due to conveying a greater sense of power. There's nothing greater than lancing a frightened civilian with a tracer round.
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they might even be more powerful if the hitboxes are based on sprites
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I think the hit boxes are based on sprites, it may make them hit sooner, maaay anyway. But the amount of projectiles on screen at a time from a continuous stream is the same, 8 bullets. & They move fast enough that you'd likely only every be hit/ hit anything directly head on anyway. What I really need to do is take screenshots of both normal bullets & the tracers & see if the spacing between the two is the same average. If so tracers wouldn't have any more of an edge over normal rounds due to requiring an even amount of traveling distance.

EDIT: Reuploaded the zip, I noticed I didn't make a complete green outline on the silenced Machine gun around the Silencer, so I fixed that.

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Did a touch up on the tracer bullets. You can't tell by these screen shots but the three slits I created make the bullets in motion harder to focus on & actually look like a projectile in motion. The prior iteration produced too solid a look & made them feel more like laser beams than a solid projectile.

EDIT: These may look better for standard play, but any script with enemies that have no reload time looks better with the completely solid bullets.
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Re: Pistol & Shotgun Redesign

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I just caught a sty glitch in both residential of the normal tracers zip I linked & industrial of the tracer particles I linked. If the gun jeep machine gun isn't loaded into the sty file right dummy gun jeeps won't spawn. So here's both zips again to make sure dummy gun jeep spawns happen on wanted level 6.

EDIT: Correcting the old download links for the tracers too.
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Re: Pistol & Shotgun Redesign

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Did this for fun in the event I could ever figure out how to hack the .exe to add a hand held water cannon to the game.
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you could try to use cheat engine to rip the watercannon of a firetruck off and remote control it. if you figure that out it should be possible to do the same with pointer magic in the mission script
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There is a firetruck mission in the 2nd level that makes you turn a water cannon into a fire cannon (Zaibatsu mission). Use cheat engine to figure out what value changes when the water cannon changes. Find out if the handheld flamethrower has a similar value set then change it into a water cannon. I'll see later on if I can find the area where that value maybe hiding.

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Ok, did some testing and it seems that there are extra weapon slots. I tried to add a water cannon and it just seems to crash. I also figured out how to edit the weapon values so a pistol would shoot Molotovs when selected instead of the normal pistol round.

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Hmm, I wonder why exactly it crashes :(

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BeepBoop wrote:I also figured out how to edit the weapon values so a pistol would shoot Molotovs when selected instead of the normal pistol round.
thats cool. could you share the addresses you have to modify or can you wirte a little test script?

it would be quite useful if you could lay mines on foot or car stoppers poweups or throw footbals
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Re: Pistol & Shotgun Redesign

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Yeah I agree with elypter. If I could make grenades drop car mines it'd be great for this map I'm working on.

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Re: Pistol & Shotgun Redesign

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Been designing new gun designs for the map I'm working on for fun.
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Machinegun (designed to look compact due to it being one of the fastest things you can run with. Think of it as a machine pistol).
Electro baton (taser like design).
Pistol designed to look like a minigun due to the pistol having no reload time on this map.
Electrogun.
Fllamethrower.
& Silenced machinegun, designed to look like a heavy machinegun due to having no reload time.
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