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Re: Vike's enhanced GTA2

Posted: 09 Sep 2010, 08:18
by Vike the Hube
Any changes that are gameplay altering I intend to make optional in the lobby, so if you like them you can have them, if not you don't have to have them.

Re: Vike's enhanced GTA2

Posted: 09 Sep 2010, 14:12
by elypter
recently i (re)discovered a bug in gta. maybe it is not too hard to solve it:
-when you blow up a car bomb in a truck with trailer attached the trailer gets disconnect and the bomb ticks in the trailer, but when you do the same with an instant bomb the game crashes.

Re: Vike's enhanced GTA2

Posted: 19 Sep 2010, 18:04
by Cuban-Pete
It would be nice if you could make game speed adjustable in-game and with little bit more precision. Something like 4-6 speeds. :)

Re: Vike's enhanced GTA2

Posted: 19 Sep 2010, 18:21
by Razor
i alredy told to vike that fps box would be nice :D you set the limit of fps so it can be 10 or even 60:>

Re: Vike's enhanced GTA2

Posted: 19 Sep 2010, 20:55
by elypter
fps control would be nice but most time in Internet games you don't get that high fps. new gamespeeds like extra fast and ultra fast would be cool.

Re: Vike's enhanced GTA2

Posted: 19 Sep 2010, 22:18
by BenMillard
Stop entering car while using flamer from crashing the game, please.

Re: Vike's enhanced GTA2

Posted: 20 Sep 2010, 04:11
by Vike the Hube
BenMillard wrote:Stop entering car while using flamer from crashing the game, please.
That one's surprisingly tricky. I've attempted to solve it several times before without success; although with my new information I might have a chance now.

Re: Vike's enhanced GTA2

Posted: 20 Sep 2010, 09:16
by Pyro
Not sure if it's been mentioned but, the bug where you punch someone and then switch to electrogun and fire at them and they never die until you stop firing. They then stand up again before you can kill them normally. ;)

Re: Vike's enhanced GTA2

Posted: 20 Sep 2010, 09:52
by Vike the Hube
Pyro wrote:Not sure if it's been mentioned but, the bug where you punch someone and then switch to electrogun and fire at them and they never die until you stop firing. They then stand up again before you can kill them normally. ;)
:o

Re: Vike's enhanced GTA2

Posted: 20 Sep 2010, 16:24
by Cuban-Pete
Vike the Hube wrote:
Pyro wrote:Not sure if it's been mentioned but, the bug where you punch someone and then switch to electrogun and fire at them and they never die until you stop firing. They then stand up again before you can kill them normally. ;)
:o
That is no bug, that is "normal". You pin a person on the ground because of electric shock, but it's not strong enough to kill him, because he is too close to the ground.

If a person jumps, than the electro gun should not work/kill. That is a bug.

Re: Vike's enhanced GTA2

Posted: 21 Sep 2010, 19:33
by BenMillard
Cuban-Pete, that doesn't make sense in the GTA2 world. Electrogun is always the same strength. So it should kill when person is stunned on the ground, like flamer and everything else. That's the bug.

Even after several "hops" over cars, Electrogun still kills in the same time. Also, punch-and-kill is a pro move which is a bizarre failure when tried with Electrogun.

Electrogun should continue to work when people are jumping because...because...electricity isn't scared of heights! :D Indeed, the Electrogun works better on slopes than any other weapon. (Probably more by accident than design but still...this is the reality of the GTA2 world.)

When a person jumps their legs are still below where their head was, so breaking the Electrogun spark would seem very strange. Escaping flamer by jumping is OK in the GTA2 world - otherwise it would be certain death.

Re: Vike's enhanced GTA2

Posted: 21 Sep 2010, 21:10
by Sektor
BenMillard wrote:Electrogun should continue to work when people are jumping because...because...electricity isn't scared of heights! :D
I don't know if it is scared of heights but electricity tries its best to get to ground. If can't get to ground then you won't get electrocuted. There's a reason birds can stand on power lines and planes get struck by lightning without catching on fire :D

I don't think it should be changed in GTA2 since it must be some seriously high voltage to jump around like that. I'm sure it would have no problem jumping a few metres to ground.

Re: Vike's enhanced GTA2

Posted: 21 Sep 2010, 23:41
by elypter
haha,
To understand gta physics you need a very "special" kind of logic. ;) I don't think it should be changed. This glitch doesn't give anyone an unfair advantage. electrogun is strong enough and i don't think it's bad when you have sometimes the possibility to use a bit of tactic to save your ass. However i don't mind if it would be implemented with a checkbox to switch it off.

Re: Vike's enhanced GTA2

Posted: 21 Sep 2010, 23:53
by Sektor
Can you make the REMOVE_ARROW ( p1 ) command remove the arrow pointing to p1?

That command compiles and doesn't crash the game but it doesn't do anything since p1 isn't an arrow.

Re: Vike's enhanced GTA2

Posted: 22 Sep 2010, 00:03
by Razor
-would be great to do m:ss onscreen counter counts up from 0:00 ? Nice to see that in races
- change limit of on screen counters from 4 to 6 (1 counter for each player)

Re: Vike's enhanced GTA2

Posted: 22 Sep 2010, 16:29
by Gustavob
Razor wrote:-would be great to do m:ss onscreen counter counts up from 0:00 ? Nice to see that in races
- change limit of on screen counters from 4 to 6 (1 counter for each player)
agreed, but maybe increase onscreen counters limit to 8 or so, or make it so there can be enough onscreen counters to "fill" the left side of screen (where counters/timers are)

About arrows, is it possible to make them appear for only one player? e.g. POINT_ARROW_AT ( arrow_name , X.x , Y.y , Z.z /*or name*/, player_name )? Would be useful for some maps (e.g. 9/11 :P)

EDIT: Is it me or Elvis dudes arent running away from cars driving/sounding horn on pavement anymore? I enabled Show Horn to take this screenshot, look:
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They dont seem to run away when you shoot either. But if you kill one of them (running them over or whatever), they will run away (the killed one is at the front of my car):
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Re: Vike's enhanced GTA2

Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 20:02
by Mr Zero
Version 11.41 crashes every time I try to start a level... V. 11.39 works fine.

Re: Vike's enhanced GTA2

Posted: 24 Sep 2010, 20:23
by Sektor
Do you have a GTA2\test folder and is it writable?

Re: Vike's enhanced GTA2

Posted: 26 Sep 2010, 08:24
by Mr Zero
Sektor wrote:Do you have a GTA2\test folder and is it writable?
Haha, I thought that folder was not needed as it was empty so I had deleted it. :D Now the game works again. Thx bro!

Re: Vike's enhanced GTA2

Posted: 26 Sep 2010, 12:53
by Sektor
I reuploaded patch.7z with manager-hkcu.exe included again and a readme.txt in the test folder. Next GH will use gta2 manager.exe and I'm sure Vike will stop GTA2 from crashing if the test folder is missing.