TinyGTA - portable minimalistic zeroconfig GTA2 - only 5.7MB

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TinyGTA - portable minimalistic zeroconfig GTA2 - only 5.7MB

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This is a minimalistic version of GTA2 with only 5.7 MB.
It is a single file sfx that contains only as much as is required to run a lan game.
No singleplayer, no menu, no gta manager, only one map.
I included tiny tiny town (http://elypter.net84.net/gta2.tk/maps.html) which is a shrinked version of tiny town.
Think of it as an appetizer that you can give around on a lan party or anywhere else.
Its perfect when you only have 15 minutes because it runs without any preparation and its extremely portable because 6 MB can be stored almost everywhere.

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http://elypter.net84.net/gta2.tk/packs/tinygta.zip
and now also available over easy rememberable urls:

http://tinygta.tk
http://tinygta2.tk
http://tgta.tk
http://tgta2.tk


If you don't trust it(which generally is a good habit with .exe files) use 7zip to check the files inside.
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Anybody tried this already (on LAN)?
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the registry file and the script had a little error but now it works. Also in multiplayer.

And i reduced the filesize to 5.7MB
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What's the point of this?
A full GTA2 (without music/videos) only takes about 18MB (even less, since with Vike's changes the soon to come new GTA2 rip will no longer include obsolete files), and doesn't require any configuration either.
Other than as an experience in hacking games up, I don't see one.
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18 vs 5 MB is not relevant for storing but it is relevant for downloading, since not everyone has highspeed-dsl

its not only small but its also easy to run, not only for people who already know gta2 but also for complete noobs. If you have ever been on a lanparty you know how long it takes to get a game working for everyone who wants to play it even if it is a simple procedure.
with this compilation you just need to shout "go to http://tinygta.tk/"
With the original release you would have the problem that half of the people don't have 7zip; Most of the noobs will run gta2.exe instead of the manager; And if someone other that you hosts he will select a giant map and stupid gamesettings;....
Getting this working for everyone does at least take 15 minutes. And usually thats much more time than the average would invest to play a 10+ years old game. This is not for gta2 vets but its an appetizer for recruits.

with tinygta it wouldn't take longer than a minute until everyone is in the game. So it can be played while waiting for others installing another game or always where you have some minutes idle not only on lanparties but everywhere where you can find windows machines and people.

Btw: im also planing to release a fully equipped gta2 soon which will be arround 50mb
Edit: here is the first attempt: http://elypter.net84.net/gta2.tk/packs/complete_pack.7z
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Nice website. :)

Thanks for hosting.
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(My reply is in the same order as the points you made) That's assuming that DrSlony's Rip is hard to get running (which it's not), assuming people don't like any of the standard maps, assuming they want to download exes, assuming they need 7-Zip (which they don't), assuming that running gta2 manager is what everyone wants (which it isn't, especially for those who need to use a glide wrapper because their card is too new or otherwise unsupported by gta2/dx8), assuming experienced players join noobs and not the other way around, and assuming that a noob's key problem is unzipping and not forwarding ports (which the latter clearly is). That's a lot of assumption, and you know what it means to assume*, don't you? :]

DrSlony's Rip v2, which will probably be called GTA2 GTaMP Rip or something nicer and shorter, will be even smaller and have less executables, still including everything except the irritating music and ugly videos.

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(My reply is in the same order as the points you made) it isn't hard but it's much "hard"er than almost nothing, they don't know->so they don't know which are best for mp, what's the difference between an exe and a zip with exes in it? btw you can extract an sfx without launching it, 7zip or winrar or something that needs to be downloaded & installed which is not always possible/allowed, ,isn't it better when it doesn't matter? choose faster pc as host or play without experienced players, it is a -LAN- version otherwise i would have included gh. The only false assumption i made was that i thought that you read the description(... ok i should calm down a bit). Just wanted to say that most of what i'm writing was already mentioned.

This time i hope my assumption is wrong that you meant a complete stock gta2 can be smaller than 5,7 MB because it is technically impossible. I threw out every not required game content. Its 77 files vs 358 files and how do you want to reduce the number of executable when it is 1. Extract the sfx and have a look at it!

tinygta was never meant to replace a full gta2. It is meant for situations where the classic attempt to play a short round gta is unlikely to be successful. Eg: being at a computer room for 15 minutes. In this situation 1 map is enough. If the people you were playing with found/regained interest you can hand around a fully equipped version.

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i made another game+map package in the same style with my map "rocket chamber" (this one is only 2.5MB ;) )
http://GTACHAMBER.TK/
http://GTA2CHAMBER.TK/
http://GTA2ROCKETCHAMBER.TK/
http://ROCKETCHAMBER.TK/
http://GTAROCKETCHAMBER.TK/
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